Ep 113-114, February 2022:

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

Today on Wisconsin veterans forward stress, you have stress. I have stress. We all have stress. Some of us have anxiety recurring anxiety, ongoing anxiety, situational anxiety, situational depression, ongoing depression. A lot of people in our community, you will not be surprised to know to learn often struggle with post traumatic stress And a lot of those mental health issues, mental health concerns can sometimes have tangential correlations. I'm using big words today can sometimes be connected with the physical, You know, a lot of people feel better when they exercise when they get a massage or, or whatever. Some of it is just mental. Some of it's just physical and some of those things just play together. I think not a physician. I'm not a psychiatrist. So I don't really know why I'm talking about any of that, which is why I need to stop speculating and dive right in to introducing our subject matter expert for today. See here's here's the deal. If the VA worked the way it was supposed to work, We were wouldn't have the issues that we have right now in our community. It works in a lot of ways. I personally ha have been very satisfied with my VA healthcare, but there are a lot of people that are in greater needs, either physically or mentally than I, that don't get the help they need. And some of them suffer. Some of them pass away. Some of them take their lives. It's not a mystery. This is not a, this, this is a fact a problem in our community,

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

Our community members and not just the service members, not just the combat veterans, but you also include spouses, caretakers, surviving dependence. All of those people have mental, physical scars. Of some of some degree, they have a need. That's going unfulfilled by in many cases, traditional medicine, The traditional forms of support. Some people need medication. Some people need mental health support. Some people need a combination of both. Some people need something else. Some people swear by by things that 10 years ago, people would've been like, what are you talking about? This that's which doctor nonsense are you kidding me? You read that out of the back of a national inquire, crystal healing. What

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

Deep Deep, whatever that thing, the, the brain massage thing. There's all these things that 10 years ago people would think, what on earth are you doing? Trying to help somebody this way. But we're starting to realize and starting to learn that even though a lot of these methods to provide the mental health support and some of the physical needs support,ua lot of these methods are non-traditional. Some of them have their roots from thousands and thousands of years ago, but they're not like traditional Western medicine,

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

But that doesn't mean that they're less worthy or they don't need to be explored because they absolutely do this. Why we brought Galen. And, and if you read in the show notes, this is, this is really interesting to me. This is something that I know absolutely nothing about. And I heard about this and I heard about the work that Gail is doing to help people who are trying to overcome stress, anxiety, post traumatic stress, and depression and anxiety. The, that happens sometimes as a result of post traumatic stress, the work that she's doing to help people treat pain, PTSD, and addiction, which runs rampant in our community through of old things, a relo therapy, which is your ear, ear reflexology.

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

I had never heard of it before, but the more she talks, the more I'm like, man, this is something I, I gotta check out. Like I said, 10 years ago, if you would've mentioned acupuncture to me 20 years ago, people would be like, you wanna stick what you wanna do? What with me, you wanna poke me with what are you kidding? But we see it now as a very viable method of providing people, the support that they need to have a healthy holistic picture of wellness. And it's not the cure all for everybody, but some people need it. And this is why we're gonna talk to Gail today about ear reflexology or a Ullo therapy. I hope I'm pronouncing that correctly. And I hope that even if the ear stuff may not resonate with you and I hope it does, cuz I'm gonna investigate it a little bit more myself.

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

But even if that doesn't resonate with you, I hope that it would open your mind up to a whole wide range of nontraditional and homeopathic and what you name it. Not cures necessarily, but therapies and ways to manage that stress doesn't wanna open your mind. It's health and wellness month at the Wisconsin veterans chamber of commerce. And we're doing it the right way. You are listening to Wisconsin veterans forward. Wisconsin's premier audio resource for veterans, military families, veteran owned and veteran friendly businesses. Wisconsin veterans forward is brought to you by the Wisconsin veterans chamber of commerce at wiveteranschamber.org. Introducing our good friend, Gail, Gail, how are you today?

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

I'm really good. How are you?

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

I am really well. Gail, I'm super interested in this and help me out. Your last name is pronounced Vela, correct? Correct. And your business is called compassionate reflexology. Is that right?

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

Yes, it is. And I started that in 2012 after

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

2012. Yes. And, and, okay. So and I I'm, I did my homework, compassionate reflexology. It's 10 years old. So 10 years ago you started working with people's ears or feet, or what, how did you get what you, how did your journey take you to 2012 and opening a business that specifically is dealing with reflexology and probably should also ask what is that?

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

Well, thank you. Thank you again for allowing me to be here and share my passion in the seventies. I found a book about reflexology and I thought, why don't people do this? There's no bad side effects. They press points on feet and hands and faces and ears. And it was really a challenge to find someone well, years past kids happened, all this other good stuff. And there was a time in my life where I had some trauma. I lost my brother, my job and my dog all within three weeks of each other. And it was one of those throw your hands up in the, in the air moments saying, all right, what am I supposed to do now?

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

Yeah. And what, what next? My goodness. I'm so sorry

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

That, you know, and that was, that was kind of a, a trauma. It was definitely a trauma in

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

My life.

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

And I had met a woman a few months before who had does reflexology. And she said, you know what, if you go to school, I'll hire you in my clinic. And I thought, oh, okay. So I had become a yoga teacher about, mm, six years before that. And I studied laughter yoga and arthritis foundation exercises. And when I had the opportunity to study reflexology, it just so happened that all this stuff happened in April. And in may of that same year, an instructor was coming up from Ohio and was doing a class in Wisconsin. Hmm. And I thought, oh my gosh, this is so miraculous. So I went to school and studied. I studied in Milwaukee. I studied in Minnesota, went to Ohio, went to Chicago recently, I've gone to school at the school of reflexology. Okay. And there's actually a school in Belgium, Wisconsin as well called array of hope. And she's really my mentor.

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

Okay.

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

And so reflexology is an art and a science that deals with the principle that there are reflex points on your feet, hands, face, and ears, that core spa to all organs and parts of your body. And when a body is stressed, just think about it. We get tight. We tighten over our arteries, our veins, our nerve endings, as well as our energy meridians. And when we can work on these areas, we can bring our body into something called homeostasis or balance. Hmm. And that's really what we can strive to do is be in balance because we can't help the things that we've seen in life or anything, you know, has thrown us off of our center. But if there's ways by just using fingers and thumbs to help bring your body back into balance, I think it's pretty cool

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

Right on. So so you've been doing that and is it just like you're pushing or massaging or putting pressure upon or rapidly punching or like what, how do you, how do you engage those, those specific points or is it different for each point?

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

It's a little different for each point. So on the feet themselves, there are over 14,000 nerve endings and we just use fingers to press these areas and go over very tiny areas at a time looking for something that we call adhesions. So if you think of your circulatory system, you've got this wonderful heart that sends your blood through all these areas. And if you think of your feet, that's really the farthest away from your heart. And at the end of our arteries and veins, we have capillaries. They're very fine hair like features that allows that B blood to go from one to the other, back through the heart. When we find places in our feet for me to feel it can feel anything like, oh, a grain of sand to a grain of rice, to a split P when people report what they feel, it can feel like a, a zing or a, a sharpness reflects on is not massage. There is a big difference. We are looking for specific points that refer to a certain body, a little more muscular in, in the style we reflexology is not lightweight. Unless of course you're looking on babies, in which case it truly is

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

You do people do reflexology on babies.

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

Yes. as a matter of fact, I just finished a zoom call with my instructor from Manchester, England. And she taught us baby reflexology when I was in Seattle about a month before COVID had happened. And it's very lightweight, but it also works with people who are at the end of life. You really, you, you want to help people do what they need to do to move forward. However, if you have a healthy body you wanna get in there and you wanna help them make the rest of their life, the best of their life.

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

So it's, so it is either pain mitigation or ma or preemptive health stuff. So, so what, what happens when you press, press one of these pressure points? What is, what's the result? How does, how does, how does this not massage, but how does this focused engagement with these pressure points? How does that I could see it physically relieving stress. It like what's the translation between that and say anxiety, post traumatic stress addiction, or is that just something that's not known?

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

Well, reflexology can help a host of maladies, shall we say? It's not just for one thing or a another, but when the body is relaxed, when, so we have this thing in our body called the vagus nerve. It's the longest nerve in our body. And it feeds all of our organs and glands except the bladder. And when this vagus nerve, when we have our sympathetic nervous system that sets off that fight flight or freeze moment where we feel that we can lift a car off of a, a person or run away from a tiger. Sure. This perception, this stress, our perception is our reality. And someone who might see a spider walking across the Laura might just take a piece of paper and get that spider out of there. Whereas someone else might go, that's a spider. Yeah. In which case your sympathetic nervous system is set off.

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

When that happens, the blood starts pumping. It goes to your brain. It goes to your muscles and you are ready to rock. However, there are other other systems in your body that kind of take a backseat. So your digestive system slows down your reproductive system slows down as well as your immune system. Hmm. And so when we are in a state of tension, all those other areas are kind of taking a backseat. Sure. And that doesn't mean we are in a, in balance and we are not feeling our best because believe it or not, studies have shown that 70 to 80% of illnesses are caused by stress. Mm. And we can find a few ideas, a few ways to help get rid of this stress. Like I said, the goal is to make the rest of your life, the best of your life. And so by using your fingers and thumbs to go over these areas, you help break up that congestion and you help bring the body back into balance.

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

The health center that I'm at used to have a gentleman who was a nutritional microscopy theist, huh. Which was a $50,000 word for the blood guy. Okay. He worked at live blood and dried blood and can tell your state of health from this. And this man was the president. So he had done millions or thousands. I don't know how many, he had done a lot of blood tests. And I had a woman who came in and she was, I feel really blessed that she let us look at her blood. Well, whatever the level that they look at for acid in her body, it was at a level of 26. I worked on her for an hour and a half. She went to the restroom, went back to the blood guy and her blood acid level was four. Keith

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

Said, wow. So after one session

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

Right now, just

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

In me,

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

Was she a, you know, a, a typical case, I don't know. But what happened is, is that when you release acids, you, you might have heard about acids and alkaline in your, That love, like our coffee and stuff is is more acidic. And the more alkaline our body is, the healthier will be. So the, he, the president, this, this Jeffrey's headset, the only thing in his career that he had seen that reduced acid levels, that much in a human body was something called chelation therapy, which is where you have an IV for like four hours. So 90 minutes of a little foot TLC versus four hours of, of an IV. Hmm. I know what I'd choose.

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

Right? Yeah, absolutely. So, so if I'm, let's say I'm a combat veteran. Let's, let's pretend I am not a combat veteran for the record. I am a vet. I have been overseas. I have not seen combat. Let me, so let me rephrase this. Cause I don't want anybody to think. I'm making claims. I'm very careful about that. Let's say you have a combat veteran who comes to you and says, Gail, I'm dealing with posttraumatic stress. I have addiction issues. You know I'm having mental health concerns, depression, anxiety. What can you do for me? Is there a little bit more of an interview process? So you're like, okay, sit down. I'm gonna start doing your, your ear stuff. You know?

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

Well, first we do a health intake and my original, my, my first session is usually about two hours long. I tell people just block two hours out because we need to get to know each other. We need to figure out what, what are some of the key things? What is in front? Because our health and our conditions are like the layers of an onion. Hmm. Whatever is on the outside. That's the most prominent. So if there are, you know, five things you might be working on, maybe, maybe you've got ringing in your ear. Maybe you've got back pain. Maybe you've got some other ways that some other things that are really pressing. But when we work on feet, we try to work on that outer layer of the onion. What is most prominent? So there are certain parts of your body such as your adrenal glands when adrenal glands.

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

Again, those are the fight flight or freeze parts of our body that when our adrenaline goes, oh my God, gosh, we're, we're ready to rock. And we're ready to lift cars off of people or run away from a tiger. As I work on a person's body or feet or years, it is my goal to get their parasympathetic nervous system to begin taking over. Sometimes people can utilize their own bodies to get the parasympathetic nervous system in, in full view versus being in that fight flight or freeze. And there's actually a couple of exercises that we can do today to help reduce some of the us and let our Vaus nerve calm our body down. And so I'm pretty excited about that. But what I would do is

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

Like do today, like,

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

Yeah, yeah. Okay. Like I I'm ready. I'm taking a Vaus nerve class right now and I've taught this particular thing three times. All right. And in three classes, at least one person is falling asleep.

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

Can you not put me to sleep live on the show though?

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

Well you might need another sip or two of coffee

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

That I can do. All right. That's that's, that's incredible. So, so if somebody's watching right now, they could do this at home and it could potentially provide some relief to pain or stress or whatever, which is probably a good time for us to throw out the disclaimer that talk to your doctor before doing X, Y, Z, anything. This is for informative and entertainment purposes. Only. We are not. We tell giving you medical advice. Don't don't come after us put that in the fine print. Not even fine print, put it in bold letters. Like we are not liable in case anything crazy happens. But to me, this seems like a pretty safe endeavor. There's not a lot of potential harm in poking places, right?

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

Exactly. One of the best side effects of doing this kind of therapy is hope knowing that there may be possibly somehow some way in your life that you can live life in a better setting. Maybe can control those feelings when they wave, because humans are resilient, but sometimes we're buffeted about by things, Be a sound or a word or a sense that brings us back into that state, where we are tense when we can access the parasympathetic nervous system, that vagus nerve to calm it down and bring ourself back into balance. You can really accomplish some wonderful things. You might not yell at your family, your kids, or as much believe it or not. This even works on dogs. And, and, and you can, I, I have a corgi puppy he's a year and a half old and he is, mm, kind of a spa.

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

Is it a, is it a Welsh or a Pembroke? It's important to, Ah, okay. The less common. So it's got a big fluffy tail, right?

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

Actually, maybe I'm sorry. I'm I, he does not have a and

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

Well, sometimes they get docked. Is it longer hair?

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

Yes. And he's got this magnificent man and, and our last name is, is Valla. So he's got this nice little V on his head and he, oh,

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

That's

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

Cool at the breeder. He picked me, but at a year and a half, he's kind of wild. And if I work on the area in front of his ears, he just melts. Hmm. And if I can help a dog, oh, we can certainly help each other.

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

You know what, that's a really, I just had a flashback to a memory that I had forgotten after I joined the military, I had a dog and I had taken him to this puppy play thing in my local community. And there were all these dogs and they had somebody there doing dog massage. And me and my buddy who had brought our dogs, he had a Karen terrier and mine was a, a mut named bear. He looked like a black so we, we brought him in and he was a little wild at that time, cuz he was young. And not trained very well. He was a rescue, you know, at the time. And we did the dog therapy or the dog massage and I thought it was really dumb, but I was just going with my friend or whatever, but bear just melted. He did. And he chilled out for a little bit, which for me as the, the owner of a spazzy dog was, was like, it was like a VA, a small vacation. So. Okay. It's funny. You mentioned that. Okay. Do you wanna dive right into trying some of this today?

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

Absolutely. All right. So let's try a vagus nerve relaxer. First. This is something that helps you get rid of and be more in control of the parasympathetic nervous system, which is also known as the rest and digest. So if you take your middle fingers and place them behind the hollow of your ear, if you reach back there, you can kind of feel and you wanna do both sides at the same time.

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

Oh, I see. Okay.

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

If you are flexible enough, try to bring your forearms together. Oh

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

Boy, me and flexible are not synonymous. All right. I think I got it.

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

Okay. You want this part of your thumb. If you can, to rest on your collarbone.

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

You know, incidentally, this was my most recent glamor shots pose was kind of this.

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

I could see that.

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

All right.

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

So the ring finger is going to be at the front of the ear, right? Okay. Right about here.

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

Okay. And the middle finger still behind? Yes. Okay.

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

And your pinkies just rest wherever. So now be mindful of where your index fingers are resting. You have these cords at the back of your head. If your index fingers are long enough, you can touch that cord at the back of your neck. And then your thumbs are gently resting at the base of your neck.

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

All right. Okay.

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

This is an G balancing therapy. So it is supposed to Val balance your vagus nerve. Now your vagus nerve is easily accessible through the area behind your ear. That's the closest area to the skin. So when we do this, you place the tongue at the roof of your mouth.

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

Okay.

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

And you breathe in through your nose. And when you breathe out, you open your mouth, keep your tongue to the roof of your mouth and try to sound like Darth Vader. So take a breath in tongue to the roof of your mouth and go. And we do this six times, Sorry. I lost count. I was relaxing. And then you keep the fingers in the same position and you hold under your chin and that's kind a, You know, maybe someone loved help you under the chin when you were a little kid. Mm it's. It's really a common position. And again, you would do this breath again, six times, tongue to the roof of your mouth, breathing in, open your mouth and exhale loudly.

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

And now am I pushing on these points

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

Verbally?

Speaker 3:

Or

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

You're just resting it's everything. Okay. Okay. Because our vagus nerve wants us to relax and the more we are gentle with ourselves, the better it is. So again, you complete the six breaths and then you just let your hands rest.

Speaker 3:

Mm.

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

And take a breath in and release. Now, do you feel a little more calm?

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

I, this is this. So I am like a natural born skeptic for pretty much anything. But I have to tell you, I don't know what just happened. I, I feel like I, I don't like yes, relaxed. Like I, I can't can't explain what just, and like, it was like breath five. It just felt like,

Speaker 3:

Oh,

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

And I still feel like it was like, I just popped into a warm bath or something. It's, that's insane. What just happened?

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

So your body is a miracle and we weren't really given owners manuals

Speaker 3:

With

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

This body. If it would, it would be huge. However, I feel really blessed to be a lifelong learner and the more I can share this information, I think the world can be a better place

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

That, that alone. I'm gonna have to show that to, to my family. That just, Okay. All right. So, so, so let's say somebody was doing this at home and they're like, whoa, okay. There's something here. How do they learn more? What do they do? Do they just call and book a session? Do they, do they have to go through insurance? Like how, how does somebody start this journey?

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

Unfortunately, insurance does not cover. And if I did, I would have to really raise my rates. Of

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

Course.

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

Yeah. So they can call text, email. And I think I, you have,

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

I get the website going across the bottom now. Yeah.

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

So I have an office in Glendale that is my primary office and I'd be honored to, to help folks. I would also consider doing more classes. So if you ever wanted to do something on the Vegas nerves specifically, cause this is one of about 20 different exercises for accessing and balancing your vagus nerve. Mm. And again, this is something you don't wanna do. 15 exercises all in one fell SWOP. Cause you probably all be asleep.

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

Sure.

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

But just to get that vagus nerve in control, some people are blessed to be able to do it with breath, like yoga breath and things like that. This I find fantastic. And so I'm, I'm glad, glad you had that.

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

I'm serious. I'm not even, I'm not exaggerating. Like that was, I was legit relaxing. So how long does a session typically take and then do you, like if I came, would you work on ear points or feet points or is it just dependent upon where I carry my stress?

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

Because of the C word that's going on and running rampant and sometimes getting better. I primarily work on feet. Okay. It's generally 90 minutes. I have this really comfy table. You take your, her shoes off. I will take your socks off. I have a socks warmer. That's really rocks in winter time. And yeah, that's, that's all you do is you sit on a table. You have, you can either lay flat or we have things to prop you up. You can chat if you want, if you wanna just sleep. It's my goal to get 50% of my folks a day to fall asleep. And I usually meet my goal.

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

Hmm. How about that?

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

Because, because when the parasympathetic nervous system takes over, as you felt, you can refresh your mind, your emotions, your energy life is meant to be lived and it's meant to be lived well. And if we can find little ways to help you out, if you find, or if a person comes to me and finds, they might need some of these techniques, I have a little handout that I give them. We can practice that as well.

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

Right.

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

They're dealing with that time to dictate. We do. I will do the ears, but everybody again has to be masked because because it's, it's amazing. And once this affliction leaves us face reflects really rocks,

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

Face reflexology. Okay. Yes.

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

Yes, it is. It is amazing. I learned it from a doctor. She came here from France and it was a, an intensive class for humans. And then I took the animal reflexology. I got to work on a horse, had a problem with the back hoof. And it was the scariest thing ever, because not only can a horse kick backwards, they can kick sideways.

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

Yeah. Yep. They sure can. And

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

I thought, yeah, I was working at, on a place on this horse and he turned around and I thought, oh my gosh, this is it. I'm gonna get nailed. And he smiled the horse smiled. It was, I

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

Like that.

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

So

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

That's so do you typically have people walk away from those sessions going like, wow, I had no idea. Like, that's you just rocked my world. It, whether human or horse do you, is that your, your typical response then?

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

That's, that's what I hope for. I also work with people who have had say cancer and lymphatic release is a big thing in some areas because when our lymph system gets overtaxed and if certain people have had surgeries that actually remove lymph nodes they can actually feel the move movement of the lymph in their body. And it's, like I said, your body's a miracle. All I'm doing is helping.

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

Yeah, man, Gail, this was really educational. Really cool. Very grateful for your time today. I'm gonna, I'm gonna do that exercise some more. I gotta work on being able to get my elbows together though. And I'm gonna show it to my wife and my family. And that's so cool. Any, any parting thoughts that you want to impart upon? Everybody who may be watching?

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

Well, we didn't really talk about the ear. So do we have like a minute?

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

Yeah. Let's talk about the ear.

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

So the ear is like an upside down baby. So down here, this would be the head. This area right here Is your spine line. If we wanted to work on one particular spot, that is the most amazing spot it's called the shin min. Let me try to get this angled up. Shin

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

Min. Okay. It's

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

Right here. Let market, and I have it marked on the big ear as well. So you can see that little blue spot that's oh, this is hard right there.

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

Yeah. It's okay. I see it. I see it.

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

So let me show you on the big ear

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

Right up here. Okay.

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

Right up here.

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

Okay. It's hard to do it backwards.

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

It is. So you have this little, little V thing at the top of your ear. This is the spine line.

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

Okay.

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

And right here is the shin in line. All right. What is really important if you wanted to really work with the other issues? Right underneath this area here, that is the sympathetic nervous system.

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

Okay.

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

And that is a great point to work. Okay. This over here is a here liver area.

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

Okay.

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

And right. Sorry.

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

It's all right.

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

This is new to me too. You've

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

Never had a show quite like this before. I love it.

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

The lower area is a lung area.

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

Oh, okay.

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

And right up under this Ridge, let me get over there. Here we go. Right bridge. Oh boy is the kidney area.

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

Okay.

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

So if you progressively press on those areas or they have these things called ear seeds, you can put them on and press them keep 'em on for about a week or so. And it's, it's pretty in,

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

So those just stick on.

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

They do. So they look like little bandaids with a seed on them. You can get them on your favorite place to order things. And they're very, very tiny.

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

Oh, like it like an actual seed.

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

Yes. It is a called of a car seed. And you would put it on your ear and then press it whenever you felt stressed or tension or out of balance.

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

Okay.

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

And again, that shin men point is probably the best, the best point of all.

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

That's incredible. So I'm glad I I'm glad we stuck around to talk about the ear. That was super interesting. Yeah. Well, if, if, if somebody wants to, to learn more oh, sorry. I thought you broke up there for a minute. What was that?

Gail Vella - Compassionate Reflexology:

I was just gonna say this is everyone else has served in their own way. This is how I serve. And I would be honored if you ever wouldn't do this again someday. Or if I can help anyone

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

Right on, I would stay ending. Well, thank you so much, Gail, for your time today. This is good stuff. Ask you to hang on the line for just a minute. I cannot, I I'm being dead serious here when I did that thing. And if you're you're listening, there's no way that you could see it. So I would encourage you to go to the, if you're listening via the podcast to go on the YouTube video and see me actually doing the, the motions there on the front and the back side of my ear and under my chin and whatnot, I I'm, I'm telling you, I got to like the fourth or the fifth big Darth Vader breath thing. And my whole body just went like I I'm. And I'm a skeptic. I'm telling you, I fight. I fight fight. I'm like a skeptic times too.

Adam Braatz - WVCC:

But, but that was, that was incredible. I need to learn more and I'm excited to talk to Gail some more, get to know, get to know Gail, look up gr look her up at green square center.com. But also just, you know, I hope you're at your, your mind is open to non-traditional forms of therapy and stress release and, and all those things. Because you know, when we close off, when we close doors, when we close our mind to those opportunities, we're potentially closing doors on ways that we can achieve holistic wellness. Right. So don't, don't do that. Don't close doors. You deserve to be healthy and happy and have all of your pillars of wellness fulfilled. So I can't thank you Gail enough for joining us and thank you all of you. Like I can't even get the words out, right? I'm just feeling relaxed. Thank you for listening to Wisconsin veterans forward brought to you by the Wisconsin veterans chamber of commerce. Please visit us at wiiveteranschamber.org. Don't forget to subscribe to this podcast, leave a rating and review in whatever platform you're listening through.